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I am extremely interested in your project. I would like to know what sort of hub/gearing you have. My Rover is equipped with a Shimano Nexus 8 speed. I am contemplating purchasing a NuVinci N380 along with Efneo's GTRO 3-speed front gearbox. I think this would be an ideal setup for a TT Rover tandem.
I fabricated a hardened aluminum mounting plate to allow one or two batteries and mounted this on the frame under the pilot seat. The batteries mount on the underside of this plate. This keeps the batteries This works OK for me, but my current setup requires me to remove the batteries for charging. Even though I can quickly do the R&R, I wish I had waited for TT to release their under-seat rack which would allow for charging while trike mounted. Unfortunately, TT never announced the rack until it was actually released. I believe you would do well by following the suggestion made by squirrelpie0. And you should check out TT's Low Rider Rack on page 3 of the accessories page. While a bit pricey ($90), I have test ridden a TT so equipped, and immediately suffered rack envy.
Best of luck with your Bafang installation. If I can be of any assistance, I am glad to help.
I'm going to be interested in weight distribution.
I rarely ride single on the Rover Tandem but rear wheel traction in lower gear ranges is an issue in gravel. I intend to take loaded and unloaded weight per wheel readings when it's complete ... or is it ever complete?
I sure understand the current loss with battery at rear and appreciate that point.
Thanks for input on battery location. I'm going to stop in at the bike shop this morning and bless the component locations before they're tightened up ... some may be moved around later. I don't have enough experience on board (and certainly not with e-assist to take a strong position). We're adding about 33 pounds of gear so it could matter, I guess. On the other hand, we go "low and slow" most of the time.
I'm determined not to stress the details too much and I'm a bit caught off guard this has moved so quickly. The wait for additional cable will slow it down.
Will get both these to tech by morning.
Update: Ordered cable extensions today from Luna, got confirmation tonight that all were shipped. They do NOT offer expedited delivery. Imagine ordering from Amazon and being told it has to come by Post Office or UPS ground! Only complaint with Luna so far.
On a side note, the tech and his strong legged assistant took the Rover Tandem for a spin and got it up to estimated 30 mph. My high on a long descent is about 18 :-) All their cusstomers are taken by it ... not many recumbent tandems around here.
So strange NOT to be doing this myself.
Heavy enough wire from batt to motor?
Still corresponding with Luna about the bug in the throttle but hope to have replacements in a week.
I got an Error 21, speed sensor fault. The sensor may have been bumped in transport to home in spite of my efforts. We'll need to recheck adjustments there.
The battery went from 50% (probably should have charged last night) to an apparent zero on the display in less than 6 miles BUT it still pulled up my driveway. Installed charger, set charger for 80%, immediately got 38% reading on the motor display ?? Charger didn't stop at 80% so I disconnected when it displayed 100%. Display dropped to 93% without the charger. May have issue with charger and/or display.
With motor at bottom setting of 1 and in first gear, the trike sailed along comfortably. I could not shift up past 6th so I wonder if 1st gear on the indicator was actually 3rd. We'll need to adjust shift cable. Techs got it up to 29 mph on test ride ... i have no interest in that :-) The five hills on this morning's ride were non-events. Just cruised right on up.
The larger chain ring and/or the possibility of the shift indicator being off made starting without the motor on difficult. I'm planning on using 0 setting at least some of the time.
The new harness should ship next week. They are shipping USPS 1st class so should be in quickly. It could have to do with battery and speed I guess. After we reset that and another ride or two, I'll take up speed fault, battery and charger with Luna if needed.
I'll want to mount the accessory rack and install the clipless pedals on next visit. Those cable heel retainers are awful and going back.
Low Rider rack from TT looks good and is definitely low. Will probably move battery back there on 2nd set of tweaks. Will need to find or make cable extension from motor to battery.
Velocity Pro Cycle gave me a terrific deal on the installation. The owner said he reduced his labor rate and both the techs worked on it off the clock some. I could tell they were really into this project. Everybody in town knows my wife's story so that may have played a part. At any rate, I'm grateful.
You could create an insulated cover to perhaps keep the battery warmer. Nice ride BTW.
Well, I probably overcompensated. Stock on the Rover is a 32T I think ... I was encouraged to use the 42T with the Bafang upgrade. It made sense. If you have the power then go for speed. However, to have the ability to maneuver in a tight area required essentially shutting the motor down ... then you have to reboot for a few moments. With only a power setting of "1" I couldn't feel the pedals below gear setting of 5. :-)
The 30T is great for creeping but when cruising any gear below is 8 is just spinning the pedals. I did see a 24.6 mph with power setting of 9 and 8th gear on a long, gradual incline. I'll be perfectly happy between 10 and 15 mph when we get it right. I'm in this for exercise.
While I'm looking at my chainwheel options, I am working on the list of upgrades to this used Rover Tandem acquired last year. For someone else planning a conversion, the weird thing is that you have to get the kit in, lay it out, and THEN decide which components need cable extensions and what lengths to obtain. Luna is in the DIY business as there are so many possibilities of bikes and trikes on which their products could be installed. The don't even attempt to recommend extensions with the kit. I'll try to address that for at least the Rover Tandem later.
In the meantime, we changed out one cable solving a speedometer error. Yesterday was the first time I've had a notion of speed other that what RunKeeper reports. Earlier it suggested we hit 40 mph on a downhill. Maybe. I doubt it.
I've added more lights front and back, TT cushions in both seats, SPD pedals in front, the low rider rack, velcro brake straps, pants clips, a TT bell, and a TT water bottle angled bracket. Will probably add reflective tape per this forum and another flag. One on right at captains seat and one at left of stoker's, giving some dimension from front or side. Working on modifying my trailer a bit for easier loading. Didn't mean to blog!
On level asphalt trails here in PCB, FL, I generally run 18-20 kph which is 6th gear w my 24 in rear wheel. I occasionally drop to G2, but rarely. AGAIN ON RARE OCCASSION, I WILL push it harder up to 30 kph in 8th, but find that too rough and a power eater
Thanks! The 36T is about mid-point between the two chain wheels I've tried ... and probably where I'm heading next :-)
For an external drivetrain I would use the sensor for externals.
Either of these sensors are going to save you wear and tear on the chain, sprockets and other components. They can mean the difference between trouble free riding, or having to load your trike on a trailer or pickup for the ride home.
FYI, I ran without this sensor for the first year or so I had the motor on eFreedom. I didn't think I needed it. I thought it was a waste of money, or a splurge, or what have you.... Now, it's what I consider as important to a mid-drive system for ebiking/etriking as the battery itself.
The IPS system is going to introduce some variables I haven't experienced.